The environmental impact of Anthropogenic Climate Change is the biggest problem facing humanity, because it is the greatest consequence of humanity’s greatest failure. Our existential crisis. There is no Planet B.
Don’t know about you, but until someone glued themselves to a DLR train this morning I’d never heard of global warming.
” (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) April 17, 2019
This is a follow-up to my previous post Extinction Rebellion Backlash.
At root it is a failure of our collective decision-making to act in our best interests – “ours” in the widest inhabitants of the shared cosmos sense. We’re simply the species wielding the greatest power in our neck of the cosmic woods. It’s a failure of our democracy in a word.
When I first mentioned Greta Thunberg (GT) – in suffer the little children or emperor’s suit of clothes mode – I was loathe to criticise her. In fact I described the approving response, to my suggestion she was wrong, as a scary symptom of the problem. It’s easy to criticise, easy to find things wrong, agree to them being wrong, and promote the disagreement rather than dialogue on solutions.
Down with this sort of thing.
With Extinction Rebelling (XR) gaining traction and GT being held up as a spokesperson, she and Rupert Read (RR) are the face of a “movement”.
Protest – including civil disobedience by those prepared for the social & legal consequences – is a fine democratic tradition. A fine tradition mostly in those democratic countries already taking climate change seriously that is.
Prediction – especially about the future – is hard. That’s as true of science as it is of politics. With science the point is to be as objective as possible in evaluating evidence, but to exclude human subjectivity in assumptions and conditions in using the analysis to make predictions. With politics prediction is more about wishful vision, making happen what we want to happen with the people we are. Once science is making predictions beyond its control volume, it too is politics.
And the problem with politics in our times of failed democracy is that not only is it easiest to criticise what’s wrong, it’s even easier if what’s wrong can be personified in a bogey-man or a bogey-tribe. Once science is criticising establishment politics, using its own politics (a) it’s not science and (b) it is simply part of the us and them fetish.
For this reason, I’ve long since stopped being concerned with any specific numbers in science’s claims – they’re not the point. In politics, numbers on the side of a bus are not objective facts, they are weapons with which to beat the other guy. (Climate science has been mostly politics and bad science for decades – but it doesn’t change the urgent existential nature of ACC.) The idea of the 12 years (or 10 or 20) is the call to urgent action. Urgent in political timescales. GT’s “house fire” analogy is badly misleading. It’s more like a ship of Theseus. When your house is on fire, top priority is to save yourself and rescue the other inhabitants and only then to fight the fire. But there is no Planet B. We have to fight the fire and rebuild this house from which we cannot escape whilst it is on fire. The panic – fight or flight – response is not the one we require.
We need urgent enlightened action. But … see failure of democracy. A call to action (by almost any means, by rhetorical use of words and symbolic actions) is fine. It works. It has worked. But in deciding the action, the words and arguments really do matter.
So again, as the face of XR, we need to further analyse GT’s claims. No only did I not want to criticise her individual childlike concern, I didn’t mention her individual self-proclaimed autism. It is sad to hear her talk her black and white position – “there is no partial sustainability, either you are or you aren’t”. Politically, I hear you are either with us or against us.
Totally agree. @GretaThunberg is so wise, calm & clever. Most of our political leaders don’t have her level of insight & self awareness https://t.co/lXzL8wlJoi
” Ayesha Hazarika (@ayeshahazarika) April 23, 2019
Brilliant interview with @GretaThunberg on @BBCr4today right now. Incredible poise and articulacy from one so young. 🌎🌱
” Rupert Myers (@RupertMyers) April 23, 2019
Those are intelligent people. Careful what you wish for.
The autistic spectrum disorder of one individual isn’t a problem. Indeed, as a basket of inputs, more variety has more value. As the face – voice, god forbid – of a movement we have to be concerned with the autistic position. In fact I’ve spent decades pointing out the dangers of scientism as autism. Using literal science as the driver and basis of belief in politics and economics, as if subjective considerations must be excluded from all human endeavours, not just science itself. A mantra of science or nothing. Another us and them, with us or against us, fetish.
Populist democracy. This is the real root of our existential crisis.
As I’ve said, civil disobedience direct-action protest is a good thing. It has gained the attention required, even though it was manned by people on their kids Easter vacations whilst parliament were out of town. As GT and XR invoke science in their corner. With us or against us, With science or against it, they are committing the scientistic error, but they also debase real science. Worse still, beyond that, we have to question the cause to which XR are actually signed-up.
Are XR really concerned with climate change?
I pointed out in the previous post that XR is not only exploiting direct action in the name of ACC, and cynically invoking science in its support, its active membership has a pedigree of direct action causes – the common thread of which is simply anti-establishment, anti-capitalist revolution. In fact I see it is now clear that is their real cause.
Ah but the protests are not about the climate. The seem to be the occupy movement in disguise pic.twitter.com/pq7VaNSsKF
” scepticalme (@scepticalme1) April 22, 2019
Be careful what you wish for. It’s child abuse coaching kids in revolution against the adult establishment. I thought I was being provocatively tongue-in-cheek when I invoked Pol Pot in Suffer the Little Children, now I’m not so sure. We grown-ups need to wake up to the march of fascism as populist democracy.
Wanker in the White House. Comedian in Kiev. Brexit and Extinction Rebellion in Britain. Populism breeds protest votes instead of progress.
” Ian Glendinning (@psybertron) April 22, 2019
Exactly @bbcnickrobinson @BBCr4today raising awareness of issues is not the problem. #downwiththissortofthing Moving debate on to solutions is the issue.
” Ian Glendinning (@psybertron) April 22, 2019
Ironically, the fact GT can’t speak to Trump is a microcosm of the problem. The idiot already dismisses claims of “science” – for good but irrelevant reasons – he’s undoubtedly an idiot. And the scientific response is to put up an autistic view of their position – making Trump’s denial even easier.
The reason society is having trouble getting to grips with ACC urgently enough is because it’s already wrestling with all the other consequences of the reactionary, populist, protest-vote problem. The problem could not be clearer. The solutions ever more complex and interconnected.
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[POST NOTES: And a few more follow-ups:
A more brutal “put down” of GT
– but close to the truth – (see *added below.)
“There is something chilling about Greta Thunberg. Her monotone voice. Her warnings of hellfire. Her cult-like claim that the End of Days is coming. She is proof that the millenarian green movement is messing up the next generation”, says Brendan O’Neillhttps://t.co/Sy1c8VByS3
” spiked (@spikedonline) April 22, 2019
Interesting – “autistic” defence? https://t.co/dAt0w3bnH9
” Ian Glendinning (@psybertron) April 23, 2019
Oh, and did I mention conspiracy theories – all populist “enemies” depend on one:
This is funded by the Koch brothers. I wonder what their agenda might be. https://t.co/woDUJbwor0
” Graham Allcott (@grahamallcott) April 23, 2019
(*added) Brutal I said. Fair to say this this opinion piece by Brendan O’Neil in Spiked and another by Toadmesiter in the Spectator got hammered for being grown men “mocking” a 16 year old autistic girl communcating in her second language, etc. They and their publishers have previous form too. As I say, she is 16 and she is not only autistic but makes it part of her pitch, so the real issues are there – some truth as I said – but the decision to focus on her personally, rather than on GT and RR as the (now established / adopted) voices of XR is the ad hominem error. The problem is choosing to do it. My choice is to focus on what is being communicated and why – and likely effectiveness.
But there’s many more enlightened responses than the idea of total block on all Oil&Gas business or big businesses generally:
A local MP coincidentally, today
Hydrogen could be key to answering calls for climate change action, writes @annaturley https://t.co/fvAk9kqsxj pic.twitter.com/3XMXsVV0gq
” Red Box (@timesredbox) April 23, 2019
Carbon sequestration and capture. Industrial (CCS) or natural (tree-planting) on an industrial scale.
https://t.co/rsnb1PjsPs pic.twitter.com/Pnuym5SkFV
” Jack Klaff (@jackshebang) April 23, 2019
Meanwhile (as I mentioned in the previous post):
China burns twice as much coal as the rest of the world put together. New Chinese plants under construction to add another 130 gigawatts of coal generation (3 times total British electricity generation) 1/2
” Andrew Neil (@afneil) April 22, 2019
Meanwhile I have a house full of dimmer switches that I can’t use due to the crap bulbs we’re obliged to use and a hoover that barely sucks, but hey, what’s a bit of wasted money and inconvenience when ime saving the planet. 😣
” SadieLyn (@Sadie17689294) April 23, 2019
A sign of the lack of joined-up thinking. One reason “panic” is the worst strategy.
” Ian Glendinning (@psybertron) April 23, 2019
Panic is a great call to action – it’s been call crying wolf for centuries – but it’s a lousy strategy for action. Careful what you wish for.
And what about China? (My position above, it’s part of the dialogue and the solution, but not any argument against XR. The argument against XR is much deeper than that.)
Dear everyone saying ‘what about China’ as a supposedly intelligent riposte to @ExtinctionR,
What about China, precisely?
” James Murray (@James_BG) April 23, 2019
Facts matter when we’re talking about enlightened actions, but they don’t affect the call to action. Capiche?
By 2017 China’s CO2 emissions were 454% of what they’d been in 1990.
By 2017 the UK’s CO2 emissions were 64% of what they’d been in 1990. https://t.co/0LUWFaYbt7” Andrew Neil (@afneil) April 23, 2019
The underlying problem is our democracy is broken. We need people prepared to work to fix the system, not people whose aim is to smash it.
“Our political system is a joke, it’s a worldwide joke. They are laughing at us”
Journalist @GavinEsler says he is joining the “Remain alliance” by fighting the European elections as a Change UK candidatehttps://t.co/xFFYZaVlIn #Brexit pic.twitter.com/CyTrApLgLB
” BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) April 23, 2019
And another PR stunt. Kinda impressed May didn’t fall for it.
Environmental protester Greta Thunberg meets Westminster party leaders for a round-table discussion in the House of Commons. pic.twitter.com/IqifinZL7k
” Aisling Ennis (@aislingrosennis) April 23, 2019
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